the capacity you know, we were wrong about obama. he is not really our guide. he is pro not the one to do very much to infringe on gun rights. well, they went back and said exactly the date -- the same things in 2012 that they said in 2008. i am afraid the nra is mostly interested in whipping up hysteria to raise money for itself and to perpetuate itself rather than to do anything particularly productive. >> soap responsible members of the nra, wonder if they will raise their hand and say wait a minute. >> i wouldn't hold my breath on that. >> how much do you think the nra is promoting the interest of gun manufacturers and gun sellers? >> i don't know where they get their funding. obviously they get some from the gun industry. you can make a sort of case that the sort of tactics they used are helpful to get sales. you have a big surge in debt sales after obama was reelected. there are some places where big stores ran and ammunition. >> i look back at 9294 and also for, the big mistake is not enough pressure -- to much focus on the nra and not enough focus on wh